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		<title>By: Dr. Robin November</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Robin November</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. Speaking of Alabama.  I&#8217;m waiting, and hot bacon&#8217;s not the only thing you&#8217;ll be sucking down this christmas.  The blind boys of Alabama are wanting to make a very merry christmas for one talented young graphic designer.  We&#8217;ll be Ho Ho Hoing under the mistle toe and drinking eggnog (the preferred nog) til we vomit on eachothers peacoats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Speaking of Alabama.  I&#8217;m waiting, and hot bacon&#8217;s not the only thing you&#8217;ll be sucking down this christmas.  The blind boys of Alabama are wanting to make a very merry christmas for one talented young graphic designer.  We&#8217;ll be Ho Ho Hoing under the mistle toe and drinking eggnog (the preferred nog) til we vomit on eachothers peacoats.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OSP, my old nemesis. How funny I should log on to see your comment, as I just returned from Whole Foods with a pack full of some hippie yuppie luxury bacon. The good stuff. As it was Whole Foods, it was all I could afford, so the next few days will see me subsisting solely off of Makers Mark and bacon. Not to make you jealous or anything.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m leaving on Friday to spend ten days in Alabama on a farm with my fat family and their southern fried everything. When I return, I will weigh 500 lbs and we shall drink car bombs and speak as men do. Stick that in your blackberry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSP, my old nemesis. How funny I should log on to see your comment, as I just returned from Whole Foods with a pack full of some hippie yuppie luxury bacon. The good stuff. As it was Whole Foods, it was all I could afford, so the next few days will see me subsisting solely off of Makers Mark and bacon. Not to make you jealous or anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaving on Friday to spend ten days in Alabama on a farm with my fat family and their southern fried everything. When I return, I will weigh 500 lbs and we shall drink car bombs and speak as men do. Stick that in your blackberry.</p>
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		<title>By: OSP says...</title>
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		<dc:creator>OSP says...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You guys speak in big words that I don&#8217;t know.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;MT &#8211; The Birthday Bash Trio Celebration (BBTC) is on!  It will be during this time that our foray against one another with weapons of alcoholic liquids shall commence.  When?  Not sure.  Where?  Only the gods know the answer to that one.  But get ready buddy&#8230;I&#8217;ve been laid up for a few weeks so I&#8217;ve gotten my weight up, its go time!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys speak in big words that I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>MT &#8211; The Birthday Bash Trio Celebration (BBTC) is on!  It will be during this time that our foray against one another with weapons of alcoholic liquids shall commence.  When?  Not sure.  Where?  Only the gods know the answer to that one.  But get ready buddy&#8230;I&#8217;ve been laid up for a few weeks so I&#8217;ve gotten my weight up, its go time!</p>
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		<title>By: Jemaleddin Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jemaleddin Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the em-width images demo.  &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;It&#8217;s too bad that we don&#8217;t have better resizing code in the browser.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;As for stats: can Mint tell you what the width of the user&#8217;s browser window was?  I know I never browse full screen&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the em-width images demo.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad that we don&#8217;t have better resizing code in the browser.</p>
<p>As for stats: can Mint tell you what the width of the user&#8217;s browser window was?  I know I never browse full screen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree. By my Mint stats, 1024&#215;768 and 1280&#215;1024 comprise nearly 70% of my site visitors. 800&#215;600 makes up only 4%, and as of yet, I&#8217;ve not had a single visitor using 640&#215;480.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. By my Mint stats, 1024&#215;768 and 1280&#215;1024 comprise nearly 70% of my site visitors. 800&#215;600 makes up only 4%, and as of yet, I&#8217;ve not had a single visitor using 640&#215;480.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice work with the ems-based photos, Nathan. Here&#8217;s looking forward to the day when we&#8217;ve got the bandwidth to &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; make use of it.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The max-width issue is really one of personal preference. While it would prevent horizontal scrolling from being an issue, it would also break the layout at very large sizes&#8212;the very thing I was going for.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty of designers and usability experts who would disagree with me here, but as pixel density continue to rise with the introduction of new hardware, those still stuck using anything less than 1024&#215;768 are going to have to join their 640&#215;480-lovin&#8217; peers in accepting horizontal scrolling as a fact of&#160;life.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work with the ems-based photos, Nathan. Here&#8217;s looking forward to the day when we&#8217;ve got the bandwidth to <em>really</em> make use of it.</p>
<p>The max-width issue is really one of personal preference. While it would prevent horizontal scrolling from being an issue, it would also break the layout at very large sizes&#8212;the very thing I was going for.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty of designers and usability experts who would disagree with me here, but as pixel density continue to rise with the introduction of new hardware, those still stuck using anything less than 1024&#215;768 are going to have to join their 640&#215;480-lovin&#8217; peers in accepting horizontal scrolling as a fact of&nbsp;life.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, what I wrote in my previous comment got me to thinking that I should actually put my theory to the test. And, whadda ya know, badda-bing, it works! Here&#8217;s a little demo page showing Em sizing for images&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://sonspring.com/journal/em-image-sizing"&gt;http://sonspring.com/journal/em-image-sizing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what I wrote in my previous comment got me to thinking that I should actually put my theory to the test. And, whadda ya know, badda-bing, it works! Here&#8217;s a little demo page showing Em sizing for images&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://sonspring.com/journal/em-image-sizing" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/sonspring.com');">http://sonspring.com/journal/em-image-sizing</a></p>
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		<title>By: James AkaXakA</title>
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		<dc:creator>James AkaXakA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looks absolutely fabulous! It&#8217;s subtle, excelent and fantasticly clear.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;blockquote&gt;
		&lt;p&gt;The last em-based design I tried bombed out under protests from one of our leaders that she couldnâ€™t find the navigation. She was running 800Ã—600 with her fonts scaled way up.&lt;/p&gt;
	&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The way around this (and what I&#8217;d recommend to add to this site) is to add a max-width to the wrapper div. (of the content &#38; side/navbar)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks absolutely fabulous! It&#8217;s subtle, excelent and fantasticly clear.</p>
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<p>The last em-based design I tried bombed out under protests from one of our leaders that she couldnâ€™t find the navigation. She was running 800Ã—600 with her fonts scaled way up.</p>
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<p>The way around this (and what I&#8217;d recommend to add to this site) is to add a max-width to the wrapper div. (of the content &#38; side/navbar)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great layout. I&#8217;m wondering if it would be possible to size images by ems. Assuming that by using the 67% trick from Clagnut, 1em = 10px, then an image that is say, 235 pixels wide could be set to 2.35em right? I&#8217;m just thinking out loud here, but I think that&#8217;d be cool, to keep inline article images resizing correctly, relative to text size. I of course haven&#8217;t bothered testing this theory.-&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great layout. I&#8217;m wondering if it would be possible to size images by ems. Assuming that by using the 67% trick from Clagnut, 1em = 10px, then an image that is say, 235 pixels wide could be set to 2.35em right? I&#8217;m just thinking out loud here, but I think that&#8217;d be cool, to keep inline article images resizing correctly, relative to text size. I of course haven&#8217;t bothered testing this theory.-</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good points.&lt;/p&gt;

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		&lt;p&gt;I ended up switching back to pixels just so that she could see the whole page, even if it did look a little&#160;screwy.&lt;/p&gt;
	&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;This is pretty much what it&#8217;s all about for me. Because I know substantially less about this than a great number of people (a fact which I readily admit), like a child emulating his father, I watch what they do and see how they handle a situation Iâ€™m trying to figure&#160;out.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;There&#8217;s a designer who I really think is fantastic. His personal site is fluid, and with a 1440&#215;900 display, I keep my browser windows fairly wide. The measure of his article text usually seems a bit too long, but when sized up in Safari, it&#8217;s absolutely gorgeous. No matter how big you make the text,Â it&#160;sings.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;This same designer created a fixed-width layout that looks sublime. When fonts are sized up substantially, on this site you end up with 4&#8211;6 words per line, making the rhythm of articles read not unlike &lt;cite&gt;Hop&#160;on&#160;Pop.&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;So what&#8217;s my point? That each method&#8212;fixed, liquid, and elastic&#8212;has flaws. With each project and the audience it brings, the designer and client have to decide which drawbacks they are willing to live&#160;with.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;That is to say that I have no idea, I know nothing, and purely chose an elastic layout because it seemed right for me, as a designer who loves working with type. The sites I design in my day job, which are primarily for schools, are generally designed with the assumption that readability, at all costs, is the number one&#160;priority.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.</p>
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<p>I ended up switching back to pixels just so that she could see the whole page, even if it did look a little&nbsp;screwy.</p>
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<p>This is pretty much what it&rsquo;s all about for me. Because I know substantially less about this than a great number of people (a fact which I readily admit), like a child emulating his father, I watch what they do and see how they handle a situation Iâ€™m trying to figure&nbsp;out.</p>
<p>There&rsquo;s a designer who I really think is fantastic. His personal site is fluid, and with a 1440&times;900 display, I keep my browser windows fairly wide. The measure of his article text usually seems a bit too long, but when sized up in Safari, it&rsquo;s absolutely gorgeous. No matter how big you make the text,Â it&nbsp;sings.</p>
<p>This same designer created a fixed-width layout that looks sublime. When fonts are sized up substantially, on this site you end up with 4&ndash;6 words per line, making the rhythm of articles read not unlike <cite>Hop&nbsp;on&nbsp;Pop.</cite></p>
<p>So what&rsquo;s my point? That each method&mdash;fixed, liquid, and elastic&mdash;has flaws. With each project and the audience it brings, the designer and client have to decide which drawbacks they are willing to live&nbsp;with.</p>
<p>That is to say that I have no idea, I know nothing, and purely chose an elastic layout because it seemed right for me, as a designer who loves working with type. The sites I design in my day job, which are primarily for schools, are generally designed with the assumption that readability, at all costs, is the number one&nbsp;priority.</p>
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